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Document AP/client-isolation gotcha for wifi clients reaching pve-test
Found live: a laptop on the same wifi network as pve-test couldn't reach it at all (no ARP entry, not stale) despite every wired device working fine and the mgmt firewall already allowing ICMP - the router's AP/client isolation was blocking wireless-to-wireless traffic. Router-side fix only; nothing on pve-test to change for this symptom.
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@@ -181,6 +181,32 @@ a real outage**: SSH (`ssh root@pve-test.sweet.home`) → web UI via `curl
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only then worry about `ping` specifically, and check
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only then worry about `ping` specifically, and check
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`/etc/pve/firewall/cluster.fw` before blaming the network.
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`/etc/pve/firewall/cluster.fw` before blaming the network.
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## Real limitation: other wifi clients on the same AP may not reach pve-test at all
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If a client device is connected to the **same wifi network** pve-test
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uses (`nbn-fttp-net-5G`) and the router has **AP/client isolation**
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enabled for that SSID (common default on many consumer routers, and easy
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to have on without realizing it), that device cannot reach pve-test —
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not intermittently, not slowly, just never. Client isolation blocks
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Layer 2 traffic between wireless clients on the same AP; wired devices
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(anything behind the router's LAN ports, another node like `pve1`, VMs
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on either) are unaffected, which makes the symptom confusing: "every
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wired thing I test from reaches it fine, but my laptop on the same wifi
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can't" looks like a client-specific problem but is actually the router.
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Diagnostic signature: the affected device has **no ARP entry at all**
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for pve-test's IP (`arp -a` on Windows, `ip neigh` on Linux/Mac shows
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nothing, not a stale entry) — its ARP requests never get a reply because
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the AP drops them before they reach pve-test.
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Fix is entirely router-side, nothing to change on pve-test: find
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"AP Isolation" / "Client Isolation" / "Wireless Isolation" in the
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router's wifi settings for that SSID and disable it (or exempt the
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specific devices that need to manage pve-test, if the router supports
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per-device exemptions). No pve-test or client-side networking change
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fixes this - don't waste time on ARP flushes, firewall rules, or bonding
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config for this specific symptom pattern.
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## Known limitation history
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## Known limitation history
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`nic0` (the bond's backup slave) initially had no cable physically
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`nic0` (the bond's backup slave) initially had no cable physically
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