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Drop ZFS-replication as an interim HA step; jump straight to Ceph
Simplifies the storage model to one long-term tier (Ceph) instead of two. Node 1 runs local ZFS only until nodes 2/3 join, at which point Ceph goes live and VMs migrate onto it directly.
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# Storage: LVM-thin → ZFS, and the path to Ceph
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# Storage: LVM-thin → ZFS → Ceph
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## Why move off LVM-thin
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Neither ZFS nor LVM-thin is shared storage — both are node-local. HA needs
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a VM's disk reachable from more than one node so it can restart elsewhere
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on host failure. LVM-thin has no answer for that. ZFS does, via
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replication; Ceph does natively.
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on host failure. LVM-thin has no answer for that. Ceph does, natively.
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## Two paths to HA-capable storage
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## Storage model: single node → 3-node cluster
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| | ZFS + replication | Ceph |
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| Nodes required | 1+ (replication needs 2+ targets) | 3+ |
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| Consistency | Async — snapshot-based, as often as every minute | Sync — real shared storage |
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| Data loss on failover | Whatever changed since last replication cycle | ~None |
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| Network needs | Normal cluster link | Fast dedicated network (see `03-networking.md`) |
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| Overhead | Low | Higher RAM/CPU/disk |
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No intermediate "ZFS + replication" HA step. The plan is deliberately a
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single storage model at the end (Ceph), not two to operate long-term:
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Starting point: **ZFS + replication**. Revisit Ceph once 3 nodes exist or
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zero-RPO failover is worth the overhead.
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- **Single node (node 1 only)**: local ZFS pool, no cluster-wide HA. This
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is a temporary state, not a design to build tooling around.
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- **3 nodes with Ceph live**: VMs run on Ceph-backed storage — true
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distributed, synchronous storage across all nodes, near-zero RPO on
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failover. Needs 3+ nodes and a fast dedicated network (see
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`03-networking.md`), which is exactly why it can't exist before then.
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## Migration plan (old hardware → new hardware)
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cluster them and use the GUI "Migrate" with a storage move (offline only
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— live migration doesn't cross storage types).
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## Later: handing Ceph-earmarked disks over
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## Standing up Ceph once nodes 2 and 3 exist
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Once nodes 2 and 3 are up and the Ceph-earmarked disks (see
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`01-hardware-node1.md`) can be pooled 3-node minimum:
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1. Wipe the temporary local ZFS pool on the Ceph-earmarked disks (see
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`01-hardware-node1.md`) on all 3 nodes — they need to end up raw,
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unformatted.
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2. Install the Ceph packages on all 3 nodes (`pveceph install`) and
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initialize the cluster (`pveceph init`), using the dedicated Ceph
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network from `03-networking.md`.
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3. Create Ceph monitors and managers (3 mons for quorum, matching node
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count).
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4. Create OSDs directly on the raw disks on each node — no ZFS/RAID
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underneath.
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5. Create a Ceph pool sized for your VM storage needs (replica count,
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typically 3 for full redundancy across 3 nodes).
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6. Add the pool as PVE storage (RBD), then migrate VMs from local ZFS
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onto it — offline migration if crossing storage types, or storage
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migration via the GUI.
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7. Configure HA groups once VMs are on Ceph-backed storage.
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1. Wipe any temporary ZFS pool on those disks.
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2. Initialize Ceph across the 3 nodes.
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3. Create OSDs directly on the raw disks (no ZFS/RAID underneath).
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4. Migrate VMs that need zero-RPO failover from the ZFS-replicated tier
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onto Ceph-backed storage.
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## Notes
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- Ceph RAM/CPU overhead is real — budget per `01-hardware-node1.md`
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(roughly 3-5GB RAM and a core per OSD, on top of VM workloads).
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- Enterprise SSDs with power-loss protection (PLP) matter far more here
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than for plain ZFS — Ceph write latency is sensitive to it.
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- Once Ceph is live, local ZFS remains only for each node's boot pool —
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it's not a fallback tier for VM storage going forward.
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